Papa SBJ Made Some Minor Mistakes By Marrying Many Wives….- Akinyele Emmanuel

March 3, 2017 / Alonge Michael / Saints & Sinners / 27 Comments »

This is a submission of one of the church members named Akinyele Emmanuel under one of the stories concerning the Oshoffa’s widows, children’sSBJ Nronu meeting with the BoT a couple of days back.

“The value of leadership is by example, after seeing various comment on the issue, it becomes important that we must accept that majority of our elders have failed the church in term of evolution and development since Papa demise in 1985.

With the brief history that papa told as the beginning of the church, constitution showed that his family can’t be isolated from the church. He owned the church and his family has the fundamental right to know how the church is been run. Obviously Papa made some minor mistakes, in my own opinion, by marrying many wives and large numbers of children but if the BOT has vision and structure this issue will not have been a national debate.

I believe people know that RCCG still pays the family of the founder some money for the up-keeping of themselves. It’s shameful that BOT is saying the committee use money to re-build collapsed fence/ So the financial department in Ketu don’t have plan of supplementary budget?

Another issue was the instruction that the Pastor gave Sup. Evang Pius an instruction and he chose not to carry out the order, it shows that the Pastor doesn’t have authority over some ‘cabal’ in Ketu.

On the 70th anniversary, the church has every right to celebrate in term of spiritual and committed member but not corrupt elders; but the church doesn’t have anything to celebrate since 1987 in term of development both in human capital or modern value, is the abandoned building in Ketu, Makoko e.t.c.?

Ebenezer Oshoffa was a Snr.Evang at CCC Ire-arkari parish Isolo as at 1984, so Papa Oshoffa also built the church around his son during his life time, you can’t set up a committee and place such an individual under someone of low cadre, we should all embrace peace and stand for equality.

Thanks

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27 responses to “Papa SBJ Made Some Minor Mistakes By Marrying Many Wives….- Akinyele Emmanuel”

  1. Sanami Iyedimor Mercy Ukpangere says:

    you should remember Solomon in the Bible.

  2. Arc oshoffa Isaac says:

    At Emmanuel akinyele with due respect ,please don’t bring oshoffa personal family issue with celestial issue , I believe everybody have there own family personal issues,and I believe we the oshoffa’s respect and love each of the celestial families and I would love you people to respect the late founder family and it is wrong to post such thing on Internet

  3. Akinleye Emmanuel says:

    It a great deal that i needed to reply to some comment about my comment that was posted some weeks ago.
    Obviously i never knew that my comment will be publish on CNO but for future purpose i believe that it will be on record that i reply to those comment, am not trying to show monopoly of knowledge but am writing this article the way i saw it in my own opinion.
    The only man who never make a mistake is the man who never try something, some atheists argue the mistake of man and we must think as philosopher.
    When i raise the question of the mistake that Papa made in my own opinion, some people felt i was taking about his spiritual life but i was concern about Papa social life.
    Celestial is an indigenous africa church that God gave the power to control the evil one’s with the power of holy spirit but after the demise of Papa in 1985, a lot happened in the leadership circle on CCC, some leader that witnessed the era of Papa knew the type of man he was, people like Snr evang otedigba was a colonel in the Nigeria army then, he was the one who mobilized army to Imeko that prevent Rev.Emmanuel monobiya from moving the corpse of Papa from imeko; and that was why he never recognise the current pastor when he took over the leadership because Otedigbe felt that if he had allowed him to took the corpse from Nigeria then, CCC might have die a natural death by now. I remember in 1996 or 1997 when celestial church joined the Christian association of Nigeria(CAN) at Ire-araki,mandate was giving to the church which the leader never met since then and that was why you never see us in the executive of CAN.
    Another important issue was the ruling of judge Famakinwa in 1992 against baba bada and the supreme court judgement in 1997 showed that the church constitution must to rewrite and the supreme court judgment in 1997(please make your finding in Punch newspaper achieve) after the ruling the elder wrote a letter to Afe babalola chamber in early 2000 but nothing happened,also around 3 years ago, we downloaded another draft constitution online that some people took time and energy to work on but some cabal kill it,Papa oshoffa led the foundation of deeper life church in the 70’s and the same church took celestial to court before the court rule in favour CCC last year.
    With all this, am very convince most of the people that following Papa are conscious of the leadership position in the church not the growth and development in the church, which papa knew in his heart, but if he had make the arrangement from his family to the church circle, we might not be where we are now.
    With all this, families also played some major both positive and negative, and if it was 2 or 3 wives and 9 children, who know, the sincere leader among the leader might have provide some solution.
    My response to some of the comment below-
    @Olumide, you are correct, if those leader has the love of the church at heart and the spiritual calling.
    @Abraham Osinuga, you are said it all, few individual are determining the future of a church in a bad way.
    @Naomi Da sliva, please name the present contemporary church in Nigeria that has many wives and after Jesus Christ die, did peter and other disciplines took themselves to the Jews over leadership but we have taking ourselves to court.
    @Mk kenny, i agree with you that God only don’t make mistake.
    @Ilerioluwa Elijah, Nobody is questioning Papa spiritual life, but we are concern about the unborn generation.
    @Johnson, Yes-am fighting for myself by saying my mind in concern to the development of my church, which also contribute to my salvation.
    @Ijo mimo, Those wives maintain their boundaries, but after the demise of Papa, the family was willing to know how the church is been running;because there are saying the owner of the church is their father.
    @Eji, it our business because we represent the church both in spirit and soul, and you made mention of G.O, please can you compare RCCG and CCC in term of elevation and development in modern standard.
    @Snr.Evang Anthony Micheal, you are correct, but we should not run away from f true, because of any mistake to be corrected we must find the cause.
    @Sup.Evang Alarape, we are not talk about the miracle work by Papa during his life time, but the major problem that the church was find herself.
    @John Bada, i don’t know maybe you are related to late Baba Bada, but has the church maintain the status value that the church control during Papa time. Do Baba Bada left the church the same way, he met it in 1954. Be conscious of God and speak always the true.
    @Arc Oshoffa Isaac, Interesting “insult” but it was not an insult when the family took the church matter to the traditional ruler in Imeko community in 2015, those that should bring matter to us; we are the one taking matter to them.
    Thank’s

    • Alagba Emmanuel, i am sorry i don’t know your title would have loved to address you the Celestial way. lol. Anyway, thanks again for finding time to readdress this issue. I am going to cull up this article for publication too. Kindly mail me your contact sir. Ijo Mimo yi ti gbogbo wa ni, ko ti e ni baje. Thanks

  4. Akinleye Emmanuel says:

    It a great deal that i needed to reply to some comment about my comment that was posted some weeks ago.
    Obviously i never knew that my comment will be publish on CNO but for future purpose i believe that it will be on record that i reply to those comment, am not trying to show monopoly of knowledge but am writing this article the way i saw it in my own opinion.
    The only man who never make a mistake is the man who never try something, some atheists argue the mistake of man and we must think as philosopher.
    When i raise the question of the mistake that Papa made in my own opinion, some people felt i was taking about his spiritual life but i was concern about Papa social life.
    Celestial is an indigenous africa church that God gave the power to control the evil one’s with the power of holy spirit but after the demise of Papa in 1985, a lot happened in the leadership circle on CCC, some leader that witnessed the era of Papa knew the type of man he was, people like Snr evang otedigba was a colonel in the Nigeria army then, he was the one who mobilized army to Imeko that prevent Rev.Emmanuel monobiya from moving the corpse of Papa from imeko; and that was why he never recognise the current pastor when he took over the leadership because Otedigbe felt that if he had allow him to took the corpse from Nigeria then, CCC might have die a natural death by now. I remember in 1996 or 1997 when celestial church joined the Christian association of Nigeria(CAN) at Ire-araki,mandate was giving to the church which the leader never met since then and that was why you never see us in the executive of CAN.
    Another important issue was the ruling of judge Famakinwa in 1992 against baba bada and the supreme court judgement in 1997 showed that the church constitution must to rewrite and the supreme court judgment in 1997(please make your finding in Punch newspaper achieve) after the ruling the elder wrote a letter to Afe babalola chamber in early 2000 but anything happened,also around 3 years ago, we downloaded another draft constitution online that some people took time and energy to work on but some cabal kill it,Papa oshoffa led the foundation of deeper life church in the 70’s and the same church took celestial to court before the court rule in favour CCC last year.
    With all this, am very convince most of the people that following Papa are conscious of the leadership position in the church not the growth and development in the church, which papa knew in his heart, but if he had make the arrangement from his family to the church circle, we might not be where we are now.
    With all this, families also played some major both positive and negative, and if it was 2 or 3 wives and 9 children, who know, the sincere leader among the leader might have provide some solution.
    My response to some of the comment below-
    @Olumide, you are correct, if those leader has the love of the church at heart and the spiritual calling.
    @Abraham Osinuga, you are said it all, few individual are determining the future of a church in a bad way.
    @Naomi Da sliva, please name the present contemporary church in Nigeria that has many wives and after Jesus Christ die, did peter and other disciplines took themselves to the Jews over leadership but we have taking ourselves to court.
    @Mk kenny, i agree with you that God only don’t make mistake.
    @Ilerioluwa Elijah, Nobody is questioning Papa spiritual life, but we are concern about the unborn generation.
    @Johnson, Yes-am fighting for myself by saying my mind in concern to the development of my church, which also contribute to my salvation.
    @Ijo mimo, Those wives maintain their boundaries, but after the demise of Papa, the family was willing to know how the church is been running;because there are saying the owner of the church is their father.
    @Eji, it our business because we represent the church both in spirit and soul, and you made mention of G.O, please can you compare RCCG and CCC in term of elevation and development in modern standard.
    @Snr.Evang Anthony Micheal, you are correct, but we should not run away from f true, because of any mistake to be corrected we must find the cause.
    @Sup.Evang Alarape, we are not talk about the miracle work by Papa during his life time, but the major problem that the church was find herself.
    @John Bada, i don’t know maybe you are related to late Baba Bada, but has the church maintain the status value that the church control during Papa time. Do Baba Bada left the church the same way, he met it in 1954. Be conscious of God and speak always the true.
    @Arc Oshoffa Isaac, Interesting “insult” but it was not an insult when the family took the church matter to the traditional ruler in Imeko community in 2015, those that should bring matter to us; we are the one taking matter to them.
    Thank’s

  5. Arc oshoffa Isaac says:

    It is an insult to my father and the family as a whole

  6. John Bada. says:

    It think what we seem to be forgetting here is that this a church that came from true African setting or background the pioneers were Africans who were not as influenced or adulterated like us with western life or values but had great sense of responsibility to their duties and obligations but now that there already an erosion I agree that we should amend our lives in that respect particularly since the church has gone global for easy alculturisation ,regulation. and probity.

  7. John Bada. says:

    Now that we are on papa, Devine powers I can tell the world for free that the only thing that can distract or disturb his powers but not diminish or extinguished because it can not die is noise or rowdiness and that is why he always call for quiet when ever he is praying at revivals or any spiritual ministration. It’s for contact any spiritualist worth its salt will understand what am saying. No number of women can kill it. It’s a gift a very powerful one . Its only he himself can hand it over which is not easy to do.Let me stop here.

  8. John Bada. says:

    IPapa was a very intelligent man he knew and understood everything we are discussing here I had very close interaction with him in his life time . If.itt wasn’t right for him to marry many wives or have many children he won’t have done so and more importantly God would have told him not to and since him God did not stop him then who are you to judge him.

    • MSE YOMI says:

      On point – Alagba John Bada
      But personally, I won’t encourage others to follow in his footsteps in marrying many wives. In my honest opinion, Papa may have had the grace to do so, but it is surely a difficult example to emulate.

      In every decision we make in life, we should think not only inwardly but also outwardly, Whatever you do that can cause others to fall, should be avoided.

      God knows best sha.

  9. John Bada. says:

    Sorry we love him even in death and remain proud of him.

  10. John Bada. says:

    In what way has his having many way has his having many wives been a problem to you. He explained in his life time that the essence of his marrying many wives is to have many children to bear his name when he departs from this world being an only son of his parent. Certainly is having many wives did not in any way affect his great spiritual power and neither his integrity. Compared to spiritual leaders who keep chains of concubines. He was nothing of such and we love him death and remain proud of him.

  11. Sup.evang.Alarape 4mSaki says:

    Papa resurrected 18 dead bodies in his life time,I even had a cassette in 1988 when olusola Thad Rosen from dead through SBJ,so u SD stop saying jargon about Papa,remember moses when he married a kusait woman God punished Marian for speaking bikbitten a man of God read number chapter 12.d adultery DT d pastors DT av a wife committed is worse than having 2wive.one wife 30 concubine’s

  12. Senior Evangelist Anthony Michael Oyagha says:

    Even Christ himself adjudged that none was perfect. Those talking or mentioning mistakes whether minor or big have theirs to contend with. The greatest of all living legends has done his own best and gone to rest with his God. Is his mistake if any of marrying many wives and having many children responsible for all the rots in our church settings? Is that why we can’t boast of any meaningful developments since the founder left?
    Please let us respect the dead and live our lives to show good examples to others.
    It’s like you people have no work.

  13. eji says:

    By the way don’t you have reasonable things to discuss. Pls if you av anything against papa go meet them for ketu. No come divide celestial church. You are mend to preach the gospel and not to condemn your fellow human being are you God ni.

  14. eji says:

    Who are u to judge papa, even if he marries twenty wives is non of your business.leave that to God. pls if u know u don’t Av better things to broadcast just be. Do u want to tell me those pentecostal churches don’t Av there shortcoming is this how they broadcast trash about there GO. When u start broadcasting this what impression are u given to non celestian.

  15. ijo Mimo says:

    What are we talking about here?,how does papa having many wives then have anything to do with the way and manner the so called elders are running the church now?.Papa was a great leader and it shows in the way he carried everybody along in his days. He shows and spread love even to the list person in the fold.Yes he had many wives but they all respected his calling and never go beyond their boundaries. Baba left a well groomed and healthy church but everything was on standstill since his demise not because of his many wives but because of many greedy, over ambitious elder,and some agents of destruction that can’t even wait for Papa to go before starting their evil work.SBJ calling is DEFINE and heaven testify to it.His family has never been an issue but the thief that bent on destroying the church. And their days are numbered

  16. Mr Idowu . says:

    Marrying many wives of papa oshoffa is not a minor mistake but a very big mistake.
    Those dat are saying it’snot a mistake hv not experienced it before or are not in that condition , personally my dad married two women nd i know what is there.
    Let’s leave the rest for God .

  17. benomis johnson says:

    fight for yourself god is going to ask you about your salvation

  18. Ilerioluwa Elijah Julius says:

    Who are you to question the marital life of the greatest prophet of generations a single man with 99angels papa calling is extremely different no matter how much his wives are does DAT affect his work today celestial is never affected with papa marital life so watch what u say or post!

  19. Naomi Da Silva says:

    Hhhhhmmmm, I had being waiting for comments like this. To be very straightforward, to me, Papa made NO MISTAKE. His calling is from God and that is the only person that can say A or B on that. As most Biblical Spiritual Leaders who had more than one wife, Papa was able to control the activities of his home and his calling with no interference from anywhere, this is called being on top of your assignment.
    Solomon, David were effective in their assignments.
    Papa needed not have chosen his successor as that is not in line with Spiritual Leadership. Did Moses appoint Joshua, Did Jesus appoint Peter in His lifetime? With the open TV interview that the leadership of the church is not by heredity or seniority, Papa had handed the church back to the Divine Authority that sent him tge misdion. He was only hoping that those working with him will keep the flag flying but unfortunately, they were all selfish and aiming at their pockets.
    It is compulsorily mandatory for the Board if Trustees to look after Papa’ Widows and family left behind but not necessarily mean that they should be in the management.
    Senior Evangelist Ebenezer Oschoffa being at IreAkari Parish in Papa’s lifetime does not indicate Papa building the church around his family.
    Not until we separate facts from fiction, we shall continue to circumnavigate by turning the new wine inside the old keg.

    • MK Kenny says:

      Please let us understand that the only person who does not make mistake is God. Every human being no matter how close they are to God must make mistake. Papa is not God so he can actually make mistakes which I personally believed he made by marrying or having many wives which some of our elders are emulating today. And some have even gone as far as going into adultery all in the name of papa had many wives. Papa has done his own part it is left for us that are alive to correct some things. So saying papa made no mistake is not a wise word because papa was human before he died. #shalom

    • oluyinka says:

      Read ur scripture well ma. Deuteronomy 3 vs 28. Moses already knew Joshua was succeeding him. Jesus also appointed Peter too. Matthew 16 vs 18 and John 21 vs 15-17. The leadership is elected spiritually doesn’t mean he should not have chosen a successor. The deed has been done and we are not meant to be holding on that. Instead let’s move forward. God bless us

    • oluyinka says:

      Read ur scripture well ma. Deuteronomy 3 vs
      28. Moses already knew Joshua was
      succeeding him. Jesus also appointed Peter
      too. Matthew 16 vs 18 and John 21 vs 15-17.
      The leadership is elected spiritually doesn’t
      mean he should not have chosen a
      successor. The deed has been done and we
      are not meant to be holding on that. Instead
      let’s move forward. God bless us
      Reply

  20. Abraham Osinuga says:

    Akinyele Emmanuel, thanks for the enlightenment sir, Cabals in ketu indeed and their time is up. Pius is the pastor as he unilaterarily boasts. He bit the fingers that fed him, what a hatred he has for Tosho and Edith that made him to threatened arresting them at imeko, Pastor Emf is under him. Does BOT has say in the presence of newly accepted coopted trustee member named Pius… ,Ladoja and their co. No wonder their lineage are found in division of this fold. Starting from Tejuoso in those days after Baba Bada demise. Enough of this cabal division Developtment they say as per imeko cathedral to be completed before sept.29 2017 further confirmed the blatant lies from the heirrachy of this church when He recently recycle A new chairman to be in imeko cathedral building having become vice chairman for decades without achievement. Thia further reveals the politics in play because Another powerful trustees always confront the above power of reckless spending hence a meana to get him out of their way. He always fight for developmental structure, Oshoffa welfare and all shepherds. Now they av been served from anti fraud section on Abuja. Let yhe cabals defend themselves. As per 70th committee, Alagba Akinyele Emmanuel sited a good reason why Alagba Ebenezer Oshoffa refused to served under Snr. Evang. Leadership. What a degradation and relegation spiritually? Must ketu be begging uk shepherds for money and also usa for dollars?A shameful act. Its is high time Celestians Stopped Sending Money back to ketu with all fake receipts issued and will be revealed by anti fraud section soon. Otherwise all monies will be used to hire lawyer to defend cases from now. Satan don overtake… Holy ghost Fire…….!

  21. Olumide says:

    Any mistake papa made then, should not have any effect now after 31 years if those the great man left are serious and good manager, papa left CCC member that are 100 times in number compare to redeem church but now the prodigal people the man left it for make it 1:70 . God shall surely punish them one by one.

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