Pentecost/Juvenile Harvest: Baba Banjo Speaks

May 23, 2022 / Alonge Michael / Order of Service / 23 Comments »

Pentecost Day’s clash with the celebration of Juvenile Harvest has generated a lot of controversies. After Bro Demola came out on social media to inform the generality of the church that the service conductor and the sermoner should be the shepherd and other activities for the children, the Ketu leadership has said Bro Demola goofed and was not right in his submission.

Well, Baba Banjo, the only surviving registered BoT of Celestial Church of Christ Worldwide has reacted to the saga.

According to him, “anytime there is a clash between the Pentecost Day Celebration and the Juvenile Harvest, the shepherd takes charge as Service Conductor and sermoner. This was displayed by Papa during his time and that is how he instructed us to do it.”

Now, #cno submission over this matter that Bro Demola could not be lying about it is now being supported by the Doyen of CCC himself. Do we still have to say anything now? Case closed! True leadership that is being directed by the Holy Spirit is what the church needs at the moment…now you know better!

Alleluia

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23 responses to “Pentecost/Juvenile Harvest: Baba Banjo Speaks”

  1. Akin Apata says:

    The juvenile harvest stands as usual on first Sunday and the celebration and thanksgiving service goes the same as celebrated during the lifetime of SBJ and Baba Bada.

  2. Adaba says:

    Now I knw d poster of dis is a fool.Awon ota ijo yi yio si la erupe ile.Pastor Order is all we are after Nd if u want d seat of pastor indicates Nd stop been a fool.

  3. Denrele says:

    This not supposed to bring issue, not today the service clash, we ave been experienced it for so long, even in 80 s. Shepherd are to conduct services and sermon

  4. From London says:

    The only reason for this back and forth talk is because we have a fake leader who is not in control of the church. When the head is sick, everything falls apart. This man is unfit and a disaster for church administration.

  5. Allinity says:

    This Alone guy and your vague write ups… This is 21st century for crying out loud and you are practicing Christian journalism as if we are in the political world…. Please let us have a proof where Baba Banjo said this?????

  6. Oluwasegun ezekiel sholaja says:

    The only people that have say and authority over this issue is the elders of the church in conjunction with pastor EMF oshoffa as what we heard so the date of Pentecost was not change nd that of juvenile harvest too in the days of the last a founder then let the pastor give order on how conduct the service that day all join nah celebration service so things should be done the way it suppose to be it should be a combine service but the sherpherd will give directions on how the combine will be conducted

  7. Adebola adetola says:

    God will take control on celestial church ⛪️ of Christ

  8. Bello says:

    Halleluyah ooo!
    This is a very simple issue.
    When juvenile harvest and Pentecost day clashed on June 4, 2006, and June 4, 2017, how did the office of the pastor tackle the issue? Did the office of the pastor roll out a communique on how the service will be conducted? Yes or No.
    Why so much noise this year?
    I think the office of the pastor should be blamed. It shows they’re not competent enough.

  9. Evang. Mordecai Adekanmbi says:

    I have said it severally that we can not appreciate the position of celestial in the end-time global agenda of God without sound revelations and knowledge of the scriptures.
    It is not about how Papa SBJ Oshofa did it in his lifetime but about the end-time designs and programs of God.
    Pa SBJ Oshofa never pretended to have the monopoly of wisdom about the concept of celestial in God’s end-time global agenda nor was he given the room to claim this as everything about the church was not proclaimed by Pa SBJ Oshofa, rather, it was revealed piecemeal through sundry means and diverse manners.
    The name was not given by Oshofa, and the order of service was not given solely by Pa SBJ Oshofa, neither were the songs and many other things that make celestial what it is given or conceived by the Last Prophet of the Last or End-Time Church.
    Having said that, I have to point out that both Ketu and Bro. Demola and Baba Banjo never appreciated nor got the answer right because the answer can only be appreciated from the Bible based on the concept of celestial duty as the church assigned to cleanse the world.
    Now, we need to understand that the celestial holds the key to the link between the eternal covenant of the Mosaic and Christ Apostolic Chuch as spelled out in the three pilgrimage festival as commanded in Deuteronomy16.
    In that covenant, God mandated the Mosaic Church/Assembly (Israelites) to appear three times before him every year.
    The first time was the Passover(now The Lord’s supper) the second time was the Firstfruits( now Pentecost) and the third time was the Feast of Booth( now the last harvest)
    Counting from the last day of Passover to the day of Firstfruits is seven weeks and one day which gives us fifty days(unfailingly)
    Pentecost is the same as the day of the first fruits, just as Passover is the same as the Lord’s Supper.
    It must be noted that from the Sunday of passion week which is the Sunday of The Lord’s supper to the First fruits day, which is mandatory the same as the day of celestial juveniles harvest, we have seven weeks plus one day, which makes it fifty days.
    In summary, Pentecost Sunday is always the celestial juvenile harvest.
    It has never changed and can’t be changed. It always falls on the first Sunday of June if counted from the seventh weeks from the Passover Sunday.

  10. Celestial FELA says:

    Vague

  11. MC Jumoke says:

    Please someone tell me what constitution made EMF the Pastor? The court dethroned him for failing to fulfill the standard of the 1980 CCC Constitution. He refused to sign the incomplete new constitution for lack of merit. Where does EMF stand legally and spiritually?

  12. Olu sam says:

    With due respect, what year did baba banjo join CCC? Forget about the trustee position

  13. Alagba says:

    Who chooses the date for Pentecost every year? Is it by divine choice or scientific calculation? Why can’t pentecost Sunday be moved to another date.

  14. Omo Oshoffa says:

    Why is no one asking Alonge to proof that baba Banjo really said these things. Is this article not creating friction where the parties are trying to achieve peace?

    Once everyone wakes up from their slumber….please let me know!

    Shalom

  15. Olusho Segun Diya says:

    To my understanding, the pastor as the right to give directive and with the support of the elders on things will be in Celestial church of Christ. If in the days of papa Oshoffa he did it the way God direct him, now is the time of EMF his now the pastor of the church so he should ask God the ways things should be. Dont forget that IJO EMI LAWA.

  16. Woli David Adekunle says:

    Nobody will challenge EMF if his appointment is legal. Unfortunately he was dethroned and there is a case in court. Why don’t we wait for the court to decide instead of trying to force EMF down the throats of all Celestians. We cannot force members to accept illegality.

  17. Ok now says:

    Baba Banjo is not the pastor but he knows more than the pastor. Tell the parish were the pastor was once a shepherd?

  18. Ruth ModupeOluwa Abiye says:

    Being the only living member of the Foundation BoT does not necessarily imply that he will be saying the right thing.
    Is there any verifiable evidence as to his claim? Why did he refuse to iron all these out while Baba Owodunni (the other Foundation BoT member) was alive, but he could accept or organise an online presentation just within weeks of Baba Owodunni’s demise?
    In the past 42 yrs, there had been such coincidental events, 7 times.
    SBJ OSHOFFA era – June 7th 1981
    Rev AA BADA era – June 7th 1987, June 3rd 1990, June 7th 1992 and June 4th 1995
    Rev EMF OSHOFFA era – June 4th 2006 and June 4th 2017.
    If it was done during SBJ’s and Bada’s period, where are / is the proofs?
    If it happened during SBJ’s era and not during AA Bada, why?
    If it did happen in the previous two events of the Sitting Leader, where are the proofs? And if not, why? Then, what did you, Baba Banjo do then to ‘comply”?
    And if did not happen then, why is this year different? Could it be because you were still both in the good books of each other but now that things had fallen apart, you are now taking the toll on the innocent members of the church? The era of ‘Baba so pe’ is over, it is now Oluwa so pe, a si to see bee rii’ – Sorosoke Era. (Exodus 12:26, Joshua 4:21)

    That Baba Banjo said, he ‘regretted his fault’, does not mean he is going to do the right thing. Once you good, there is the tendency to goof again.
    Nobody can disrespect Baba Banjo but every body has the right to ask him leading questions. We do not need to threaten anyone challenging Baba Banjo for deeper information. Remember that working with the Pastor Founder does not necessarily guarantee the good quality of work after him. How much work did Peter that worked with Christ do after His Crucifixion and Resurrection, compared to Paul that never saw Christ in his life?

    God bless His church.
    You are all Lullified

  19. Sp.ven most snr evangelist says:

    WHY do we celestians like dragging ISSUES unnecessarily? That the juvenile harvest clash with the Pentecost day is not a big deal.
    It is juvenile harvest.
    The children should conduct the service and do the sermon.
    While the shepherd can add Little TALK on the Pentecost ISSUES.even if there is competent person among the youth, he can do the talk on the Pentecost MATTER and the Shepherd can briefly crown or round it up.
    CCC is not a Church of robots.pastor in his spiritual WISDOM can modify things to the glory of GOD.he is the general overseer and his decision after consultation with elders of the Church is irrevocable. Let’s not be doing things to denigrate the personality of the pastor o jareeeeeee.
    He sees Aaron there when he decided to make Moses the leader. I hope you PEOPLE understand me.
    AGAIN,our revered DADDY.BABA BANJO SHOULDN’T HAVE ALLOWED THIS VIEW TO BE AIRED ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA.AS THE DOYEN OF THE CHURCH, CAN’T HE MEET THE PASTOR PRIVATELY AND DISCUSS THIS?
    WILL THIS UNIMPRESSIVE ACT NOT AGGRAVATE THE ANNOYANCE OF THE CHURCH PASTOR?
    IS THIS ACTION NOT INTENDED TO RIDICULE THE PERSONALITY OF THE PASTOR?
    TO BE HONEST AND CANDID,THIS REACTION OF BABAAAAA IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
    WILL THE PASTOR BE HAPPY WITH BABAAAAA BANJO WHEN WE SAY WE WANT PEACE IN THE CHURCH. I AM CONFUSED.
    BE IT AS IT MAY.
    THE PASTOR IS NOT BOUND TO BE ROBOTIC IN ACTION AND MODUS.
    AS A PASTOR AND IN HIS SPIRITUAL WISDOM AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE ELDERS,HE CAN ACT AND DIRECT IN HIS SPIRITUAL WISDOM..
    ON THE MATTER AT STAKE,HE HAS ACTED, DIRECTED AND ISSUES DIRECTIVES TO THE PARISHES .
    HIS DECISION IS NOT ONLY BINDING.
    IT IS IRREVOCABLE.
    OBEDIENCE TO SAME IS NOT JUST A MUST.
    IT’S COMPULSORY.
    REMEMBER, OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE.

  20. Iron Monkey says:

    Hmm. Is it about doing the right thing or following orders?
    Nice one Baba Banjo and Bro Demola.
    If we were told by the authorities to allow a woman mount the pulpit, will we do that at our various parishes?

  21. Commonsense says:

    Baba Banjo is the Doyen of CCC Worldwide. He is the only living Trustee of the original seven. Baba Banjo has a better understanding about Church doctrine than EMF. Those who try to disrespect Baba Banjo will lick their wounds. Baba Banjo worked directly with Papa SBJ Oshoffa till the very end. Baba Banjo is not the pastor but he is the one who made EMF and he regrets his decision as God regretted after the creation of man and destroyed them with a tsunami type flood to start all over. EMF was dethroned as Pastor in 2015. Legally, there is no Pastor for CCC Worldwide as of today. They are all impostors.

  22. Michael says:

    No one is challenging the order of which ever pastor….

    The person that asked Ademola that question specifically asked how it was being done in the days of Papa and Br. Ademola gave that response..but people are just quick on him..
    Did Ademola send a communique that all parish should do so????

  23. Celestial Ombudsman says:

    Is Baba Banjo the pastor?
    Oba mewa igba mewa!
    Each pastor can proclaim any declaration they want.
    If the pastors office has said it should be done one way, any parish under that pastor must obey!!!

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